Tricks and Tactics

[[>D-F<]~T-Bag~]

your ox trick is good only for saving you 5 wood for building a new ox, lol, placing an ox there doesnt make stone factory workers work faster or making more stone, it's just transporting from stonefactory to ox is 1second less. P.S. to everyone stop talking about tricks

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

I discovered it when noone were using it and didnt knew for it!I asked for it a lot of times,a dozents noone didnt knew back in that time,so hl i am that who found it first,also i described it first,so that trick goes to me,unfortunatly you cant steal that too lol.Gold record for 10 pt low rec in standard map is mine and standards(his record cant be accepted because in the time he made record this site werent exist ofc),but still you dont write my record and i post it why?I give proofs,etc and? Still your friends holding fake records and that is pain truth here.
I dont doubt you later found it,time after i found but i were inactive for sure so i didnt defend mine.
Accept some truth man.
And bag.you are my friend but your eco is shit man,every random players who play a 2 weeks online has better eco.(Except ff one that one almost all know here)it is for 5pt mostly,but for example i use it for 10 or 20 too.Try that.You will never understand economy(ECONOMY ISNT ALL,BUT WITHOUT ECONOMY ALL IS NOTHINGin most cases)in economy all counts,every wood,every space,every sec spent onplacing smt man.Every god damn thing.

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

relax man, nobody is trying to steal your "trick"
as tbag said, its not a trick

but when did you "discover" it?

what is your record in 10 pt low rec?

who is holding a fake record?

standard's record on 10pt 3k low rec is 17.4k, he did it with me, he only tried a couple times - he wasn't very concerned with economic records

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

See my post in Records(posted in june or smt) lol.Or hire some admins if wanna this shity forum get alive,and fix fake infos.I can help if wanna.If dont ok,let fake stay.
record is over current one,but there is a way to make a 25k ofc i am too bussy with studing to get this really serious and this situacion is so irritating so i dont wanna try it until this forum works fine.
A record where is clanmate and best friend watcher,without any ss or video is real one or akas holding records,fake people holding fake records?Rediculous hl.
Also i describted way how record should be tested,with neutral watchers etc.But it seems all wanna see fake one.

Standard make map,and ofc he know map best,back in that time he made a record smt over 18k or smt,later he gived up,because as you all know not all tricks were discovered not all known as now.I can bet he could take nowadays one,instead him i take that.I try dozents times,all possible ways,all tricks etc,i used to hear and watch masosz ss so i developed later even better system where can get more with ff,best speed,best way placing things stokpile etc etc as i told to bag all counts.

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

you haven't mentioned which record is fake

Me, Masosz, Arma, Peabody, VIPER, etc are neutral watchers, if you disagree, then its your problem

also, your record is not qualified for this website, the instructions make it clear that "This test is done online with a qualified watcher."  which basically means, someone who me or viper accept as a watcher.  if you want to make a real record, you can find a qualified watcher.   this is to prevent people from making fake records

again, standard's record on 10pt 3k low rec map is 17.4k

you act as if standard is some old man who disappeared and who nobody knows anymore, but i know him in real life lol


lastly, you should not speak to T~bag disrespectfully, since he is a great player and legend, and you are not - and he didnt say anything to start a fight either

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

I dint say nothing bad about him(just about his eco lol)i know him well,we are verry good friends,also i trying to say that player like me isnt so skilled as army controler etc,but my eco is verry verry good because all i have in this game i gave in my eco skill.
Again you making shits.So players who are like finger to finger with you only can be watcher,you must be hl's mother or father or maybe brother dracula or best friend to have right to test someone.Rediculous and sadly in same time.
tgc Alien fake percon-real record?
tgc jordan fake percon-real record?...I dont wanna comment other examples,and where is proofs?...
Now i cant make a 20k or even 25 lol(Didnt played since february)so i cant be tested,but you can trust to dexter,since he is known now here lol.
And also How the fuck Dhk holylord can test gor example dhk bartholo(his best friend,like brother)and how we know it isnt some agreement for making fake?NOW YOU SEE IRONIC SIDE OF THIS FORUM AND SITE.
I remember he has over 18k but let it be at your words.If he made 17,4k that dont means he made record with  you.Or you just think all main things,all records all this worlds spins around you,that nothing can happens if you dont know or you are niot in center of happening of it?

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

I'm pretty sure Masosz, Peabody, and VIPER aren't DHK members.   If you want a qualified watcher that still plays today, you could ask Me, Merlin, Blacky, Ares, Geralt, Riva, Dingo, T~bag, or Ninya.   I am the only DHK member from that list.

Alien and Jordan were T~bag and Dingo, as you know.  At the time their records were recorded, they were inactive with their real names, so I simply used their aka names and not their real names.  Since everyone knows who they are, it shouldn't be a problem.   And why should it matter what names people use - a record is a record.  If you made some aka which I did not know, and you made a record with me watching, I would still post it, even if I don't know you.  It's just fair.


Now let's get back to topic: tricks and tactics.

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

I dint say they are lol.I just wanted say that clanmates shouldnt be watchers.Again only percons who are with you like finger to finger,why for example fahad cant be watcher,or maybe me?maybe because your perconal opinions?OR?
Let me finish this.Ok
Now for example arma is going to make aka with name:Iamass
And he went game with his aka arrange gold and other things,take ss,and come and say:"Oh my god this guy is awesome he made 24k and he won record"We dont know who is it,we see "Iamass" name in site and his fake record.No proofs,nothing.Perfect crime,until guys like me,fireboy and merlin comes because we know most of that things.
AND SEE NOW WATCHER TO TGC JORDAN  WHEN MADE RECORD-WERE TGC SLY!-.-['
Just think logical,nothing else plz.

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

At last you said one sensible thing: it is possible that some "qualified watcher" can make aka and post their own ss (and say "I am watcher")

 but in these extreme cases, I would simply laugh and ignore it; the only people with admin access to this website are me and VIPER, and we would never do such a thing, and we both can understand which is a foolish aka scam or a real person.  my example about allowing aka to have records I only meant for me as watcher, because obviously i would know who is me and who is not me lol

as you can see, there are no "uknown players" on the records

(also I trusted sly enough to be a watcher)

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

You got the point.We can chat about it several days becasue you have your arguments and i have mine.Which has better and stronger is for disqusion,i am always free for chat for it i said i dont hide nothing,i say what i know,what i saw,not what i hear,rumors etc.
Again you.ALways you,you,you,you :"i believed him,i trust him,i know him,i saw him,i heard for him"you MUST get that this community isnt only YOU.
It is all of us.You cant make one community,community make people who are in it.
I'm always free for disqussion about things like this,but my record is record that is truth even you accept or not.

And now let's  we free this topic we are in wrong place for discusion like this lol.

[MAX POWER]

If some  Xcon (ares) would be a watcher for his other clanmate's eco, i wouldnt be surprised if he would send gold to his  teammate while he  quickly sells goods, so it wouldnt be  so easily noticed. lol.
 Videos would be also reliable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8AJ_rpHvj8&feature=relmfu this one isnt  so good because of doing it on singleplayer mode so we can see only date .
Anyway, all records suck, KEKS invented way to get  25 in low res event, and he showed it to all. now i dont find that video :D
just strange that now noone gives a shit about any 20pt record :D

and also in one record i see saint love(i hope i talk about the one who was here just a couple years ago) was a watcher. so dont repeat each time how  a watcher must be expert/qualified or anything,  because  he was noob/average then and you put the record there because its  masosz who's doing it .


OK merlin, sorry for irrelevant issues :D i just dont like creating topics... :D

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

Hehe true Unframed,That is reason i write this long post i trying explain that stuffs.Some of them dont deserve be a watchers,and that is what is suck here,hl put infos that is fit to his aim.And masosz's were rumored as a cheater.So how he can be tested rightfull?
I described earlier best way to testing with 2 or more watchers  where teams with tester not alowed,so no sending.Only tester's buddy is in team with other watcher etc etc for all of that contact me...
Yes,i told already single player is a lot difference than online :D
Well i knew a way to get 24-25k a long time ago possible before keks(i dont wanna put his works dont,great player indeed)
I like when grow up percon and good one with braing like you can post some good post where we can discuss in grow-up manner about problems.Nice...

[Merlin]

I am glad that this thread has started some debate about tricks/tactics, but if you guys could, please start another thread to discuss this.  I just read through a page and a half of meaningless argument to try to find another trick/tactic mentioned. I'd really like to try to keep this thread on topic. Thanks for understanding

[Nazir]

About 7 months ago, Bartholo came back (or maybe was always) under an aka and played 2 games vs [*T*] Lord Falkord. When they had a score of 1-1, Bartholo thought Falkord was worthy of telling about hidden secrets. Falkord showed me straight after since I'm a good friend of his. Barth showed Falk the moat bug, but more importantly how to crash a game. I know this, and ofc HL you will know it as well as you probably discovered it (don't quote me). To me, this is the most powerful cheat in the game and I would never tell anyone because it would spread like wildfire. Anyway, this moat bug suddenly became popular recently in GR, because Falkord told his mate Lord Vald. From then, everyone saw Vald using this bug in-game, then Inostracevia and all those imbeciles copied this tactic. Thought you should know why it came intact nowadays.

[~)ULC(~V3n0m~]

Yea I know how it started Nazir.
That crashing game cheat is very very old, I am surprised you didn't know it before they told you, but it is very fun to use in a game ^^
Sometimes I play for some friends and when I am about to win I just crash the game for the laughs (:
Though I have not played a single game over 2-3 months...

[|•Nàruto•|]

crash game? the enigineer tactic? of switching between cats ?

[Ninya]

tell it everybody...

[((X2X))VIPER]

Good times...

~)ULC(~V3n0m~ wrote

"Revolutionized"... It started to spread in Gameranger.
I didn't see moat bug being used in 2006-2007, that's why I said it was created in Gameranger. But it is commonly used these days.

I remember the days when many tactics, tricks, whatever you called them were kept secret between tight knit clans and or long time friends. You had to be trusted for a while before someone would even think of showing you some of them. Those times were fun.  I could never recall them being posted in open forums haha. But its a different time now, and there is nothing wrong with that. Factions like X2X and DHK, GoC also, had "Player Only" rooms on their sites with set ups, and info that was usually kept guarded.

Dr. Peabody was always a tactictition when it came to these things, making his famous puzzle maps etc. I remember some of us older players used to spend hours and hours trying to find bugs, or new tricks, some we later wouldn't use cause we deemed them tasteless. I would get a PM from a player "check this out" bla bla bla, and we would fool around with it for a while, then I'd ask another player about it, like FireDragon, "oh thats been around a while, we just never told you about it ;)" haha.

PS: Venom was my Guard name you thief, (also used for a short bit in X2X by me when Admins wanted my WIZ/Help name to match) As well you copied my avatar picture !!!  This is war.

[[>D-F<]~Dingo]

Yeah, we D-F's would always go into game with each other to try to find tricks and come up with new tactics... It was a lot of fun. Although the sad and disappointing thing was that whenever we came up with a new unique idea for a strategy, the common tactics were almost always superior. Tactics and economies don't become so wide-spread if they're inferior :(

[~)ULC(~V3n0m~]

Haha, well I used this name in late GSA days, since you used VIPER.
I have no clue why I chose this picture,I had no idea you used this one, since you were gone for quiet a while. I'll go ahead and change it