Legends of Crusader

[Merlin]

{{DHK}}HolyLord wrote

and xxodduss is at the top of my picture because he started playing in 2002, just like firedragon, wrath, and deez.

I really have to disagree with this, of your list only wrath played in 02. FireDragon and XX came early into 03, and Deez much later.

Again, you are basing this on the lies FireDragon told to make it appear X2X was a top expert clan from day one. He did everything he could to erase the history from the first couple years and I think it is time to stop supporting his lies.

[MAX POWER]

Holylord's list contains only  those players who came to this game under 2007. Is it legit? NOT  

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

Finnaly someone realized what i a were talking about and wrote about.
Again, you are basing this on the lies FireDragon told to make it appear X2X was a top expert clan from day one. He did everything he could to erase the history from the first couple years and I think it is time to stop supporting his lies.
He basic almost all stuffs in lies.I hope all will realize that.I just know old players cant be lied,becasue they have KNOWING about history and they know REAL history.They are not kids you gather in gameranger.
And i again saying that i dont have anything against you perconaly,just against your lies,which have a duty to glorific you and your's.

[{F.U}Blacky]

You shouldnt talk bout the sh/shc history cause you dont know anythin bout it, you copy some knowlege from websites in your shit comments and want to mess with some real shc grandfathers.. pfff

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

I know a lot more that you do.And dont wanna mess with "grandfathers".and i dont care about your opinion like i dont care about chinese architectory.

[Fireboy]

The more painful for you it will be when EVERYONE find out (as I said, you know and I know), since you care about yourself here more than in real life. I am stupid? That's only thing you left to say since you-just-can't-fucking-get-rid-of-me in any other way.

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

:) yeah.I must agree with Mr.Fireboy.

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

Nah, you're wrong son.   XXoDDuSS personally told me when he started, and that was 2002.   If you all want to believe Merlin go ahead, I choose to believe that Merlin is mistaken, and that XX told me the truth.

As for you gilman, you said old players have a "knowing" - which means I have a "knowing"  lol

im not going to argue with you guys anymore about when XXoDDuSS started playing, ive already wasted enough of my words

[Fireboy]

Then that is only your opinion that he started in 02, don't share it to other people over these years, cuz it's a mistake lol. You made 99% of people believe wrong.

Ok then don't lol.

[{X2X}DarkKnight]

I'm completely baffled by this sentiment of gilman that Holy has taken the time and effort to fabricate an extremely intricate history behind Crusader and it's players.

First of all, I'm pretty sure that it says on Gilman's own site that "=G$F=Standart and =G$F=XXoDDuSS and they were the best players during 2002-2006".   Does that mean Gilman is a liar too?

As for the truth behind XXoDDuSS, do you realize that you are all arguing about a time frame that only extends a few months? Have any of you thought that Merlin and Holy might both have the right idea - that MAYBE, just MAYBE Duss started playing Crusader in 2002, but was fairly unknown and newbie, and maybe even with a different name - and perhaps it was in 2003 which he became a known good player?  In fact, I'm pretty sure that is the case, since Duss was known by 2003 amongst the community members - it only makes sense that he started in 2002.   When I started Crusader in 03, Duss was already there and known.   Merlin might be right if he means that Duss was active in the community starting in '03, but HL would also be right to say Duss had the game and was playing in '02.   The difference is only 3-4 months or so anyways.  None of you started playing Crusader and immediately became experts and known players, why should Duss have been any different?


And who the hell are you FireBoy?  I've never even seen your name in the lobby back then.   From what Merlin and Holy BOTH said, it's clearly not just "HL's opinion" that Duss started in 2002, but it looks like Fire and Duss both claimed that themselves.  

[Fireboy]

"Does that mean Gilman is a liar too? " - I'm not in conversation with Gilman in this forum atm.

Merlin wouldn't not waste his words explaining, let's say, the truth about Duss then.

"do you realize that you are all arguing about a time frame that only extends a few months?" - that was enough to "win" my arguing then :)

"that MAYBE, just MAYBE Duss started playing Crusader in 2002, but was fairly unknown and newbie" - mostly everyone was unknown in 02, except few SHK, DKS and NDR - since SHC is released in July 31 2002 - (especially if Holy puted him in Player's Active Years: 2002-2005 (on The Greatest of All Times) and you're telling me "on Gilman's own site that "=G$F=Standart and =G$F=XXoDDuSS and they were the best players during 2002-2006". lol


Merlin can surely confirm who I am.

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

Fireboy stop chat with a aka.He made a fake x2x clan in 2011 present himself as old player,later we found it was aka of bartholo and his friends(if i remembered wrath were bartholo and this aka were some turkish percon or i wrong about him)so fuck off look his post and hl answers even he knows he is aka,but idk MAYBE HE IS REAL but i DOUBT.Fake site of x2x is here somewhere just need find it.
i said that gsf(and their leaders duss and stan)were best during that time,so it doesnt means duss were best in 2003,but they were best at that period of time particulary standard but i added duss becasue he were also one of the best during that time,along with x2x guys.
if Holy puted him in Player's Active Years: 2002-2005 (on The Greatest of All Times) and you're telling me "on Gilman's own site that "=G$F=Standart and =G$F=XXoDDuSS and they were the best players during 2002-2006
see lies cant be hide,always there will be someone who will see difference.
Then that is only your opinion that he started in 02, don't share it to other people over these years, cuz it's a mistake lol. You made 99% of people believe wrong he made all to believe in fake history i am trying prove that.
AND YES,I WILL BELIEVE ON WORD TO MERLIN AND FIREBOY EVEN I KNOW TRUTH..They proven it.
 XXoDDuSS personally told me when he started, and that was 2002 IF HE TOLD YOU,THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD BELIEVE HIM???omg...
and KNOWING you know what i am thinking hl.A true info cant be hidden.And you dont have a "knowing" of older players of you from 2002-2004 like fireboy,merlin and me becasue you werent playing then.so stop argue plz.You cant write good contra post that will say that your lies are at the place.
m completely baffled by this sentiment of gilman that Holy has taken the time and effort to fabricate an extremely intricate history behind Crusader and it's players.
Well if you read all post we made you will realize it.He made almost all fake,he made a new shape of truth that fit to his aims and to glorific himself and dhk etc.Dozent times i said i dont have against you or hl particulary,i JUST FUCKING DONT LIKE A LIES.Someone like stan,duss were playing this game a long long time(also many other too) and they dont deserve that they be remembered in some other shape but real one.also sorry on long post i just trying answer on all.
Also there is a little tiny % of chance that DuSS where played in 2002 as a "beginer" i never say "noob" word but i doubt about it,and hl you cant trust in word mate,not to all.

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

sorry on log post.

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

Standard was never the leader of =G$F=

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

Founder,leader same thing.You have my point.He were a founder but he were a LEADER(man who step to defense CLAN etc) of GSF in NWA.

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

Standard was never a founder or a leader of =G$F=

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

Standard fucked your ass dozents time.Dont spread lies again.

[{{DHK}}HolyLord]

I'm like 10-1 vs Standard lol he was like one of my best friends, I still talk to him on occasions  -_-

[!Yu.GoD!GILMAN~RF]

You know what i am thinking,and why i am wrote that.Dont try offense my IQ.It is verry possible that is biger than yours.

[oneOfMany]

gilman there something wrong wit u head lol